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Monday, May 17, 2010

When God Paints In Black


I introduced the idea of disagreement with God in my post the other day gearing up for the book club. Is that a new concept for you? It's a recent one for me.


When my grandpa died in 2001, I had my first firey trial with my faith that I think I'd had yet. We were not sure if he died with salvation because he didn't express much to us except that when my mom asked him if he'd made things right with God, he said he had. That was a vague way to end things in my mind. I really wrestled for the first time that God allows many to perish. It was the first time I found myself disagreeing with him.


Somehow we think that disagreement with God means that our faith foundation has crumbled, and God is no longer who we think he is. We assume that what he does should meet with our logic, emotions and sense of justice. So much of what God does does not seem fair to us. I remember being down right angry with God for a while when I started to realize these things. Thankfully, I began to pray my way though them and when I changed my own attitude I began to find greater, even more solid foundations to fall on than I had ever known before.


What are the things I disagree with God on?


1. That sin was allowed to enter the picture at all on any level.


Click here to read my post on the origin of evil itself. It's a huge mystery to the point of seeming a contradicting in our minds when we think of how evil could be birthed in God's world when only good things come from God, and all things come from Him as well.


2. That God says he is willing that none should perish and yet so many will.


Again, this seems like God contradicting himself. If he really did not want them to perish, they why are they? Is he not really in control?


3. That Satan was not destroyed early on when he rebelled.


Again, an all powerful God could have done that, had he chose.


4. That we are born with sin we did not ask for.


Really, it's not our choice to be blind to truth because of sin. If men are unable to be convicted because of sin, how is it fair that this sinful state is thrust upon them when it keeps them blind. How can they really be responsible for a blindness they did not ask for?



5. I certainly disagreed with God when he decided three years ago today that my dad should die at 54.


So, those are just some of my big ones. How did I resolve this and even strengthen my faith with these huge issues I had with God? Well, first I had to be willing to speak them out to him and let him know where my heart was struggling. Then I remembered my children.


No matter what we do sometimes, our children do not understand our rules. They don't think they make sense, they don't like them, they even disagree with them. I could sit there on the bed with them and talk till the cows come how trying to explain my reasoning but what is sensible to me is not going to be to them. There may be some light bulbs going off but many times it's just impossible to always get them to see things from my perspective.


If there is such a leap between a parent and child, how vast the chasm must be between us and God. The great mysteries are deep and wise. We don't have what it takes to wrap our heads around a single one of his thoughts. Even if we do get some of them, it's by the work of God's Holy Spirit which really is not us getting it but the Him in us getting it!


If someone rejects God for the holes they think they have found in His plan or their logic alone, they are just as foolish as a child declaring that their parent is not their parent who loves them because they do things they don't understand or like.


There is freedom in saying to God "I don't like this, I don't agree with this, I don't understand this." The freedom I'm referring to is a freedom from the chains of our understanding that hold us back from running the race we are meant to.


Think about it, what was the first thing Satan wanted human-kind to do? Doubt God. Well, not entirely, he wanted them to doubt and then act on that doubt. Doubting God is a result of a disagreement we have with Him. The disagreement is not something we should feel threatened by. We should expect to disagree with God because our wisdom is not equal to His and our thoughts are not like His. If you should not be surprised that you disagree, don't be surprised or discouraged by doubt either. Let it however spur you to do what it's meant to do, seek Him MORE. He promises that those who seek Him WILL FIND HIM. If you however, rebel and stop seeking because of these disagreements and doubts, you will be stuck in despair. If you, like Eve, allow them to become accepted lies about God, you will sin because you will act on what you believe to be true. Your truth has been exchanged by a lie and that lie is that God is not to be trusted and He is not completely good.

If your children doubt your love for them (most likely because they disagree with something coming from you) does that change the fact that you DO love them? Our doubt or disagreement does NOTHING to alter truth, but it DOES alter our thinking if we do not seek God in our questioning. There is only one way to do that and that is through His word. Rejection of God's word due to acceptance of a lie that it has lost it's validity due to our doubt is locking the gate to the path of our own happiness.

Does that mean God's word will give you all the answers you seek? No. In the book of Job, Job is finally angry and venting out to God. Does God answer him with clever comebacks for Job? No. Does he wow him with logic and wisdom that makes Job say "ah, duh, I get it now!"? No. What does he do? HE SHOWS JOB HIMSELF. There is only one cure for doubt of God and that is reassurance from Him that he is SUPREME. His supremacy gives us the eyes to see WHY he can be trusted. When you look at a planet in the sky, do you think about the fact that you could probably trust the maker of that planet to know far more than you do? When you see a baby being formed in the womb or feel it yourself, do you ponder the wisdom that is beyond you? Could God explain to you how those things were made? Would you understand it if he did? I highly doubt it. I can't even understand 12th grade math or science very well!

God showed Job how HUGE he was and how small Job was. He showed him what he needed to see. God cannot explain Himself to us because He knows we cannot comprehend Him. That is a side note to the fact that He doesn't have to! Yet, how lovingly he reaches down to extend himself to us at any level we CAN understand, be convicted by, or comprehend. HE has given us all we need to trust and come to him.

So, we could be like the child who hears his/her father say "I love you, trust me, do it this way" and respond with obedience. Or, we can be the one who says "no, prove to me first why it has to be this way." Sometimes all our wisdom would be complete foolishness to a child and God knows the same about us.

So, seeking is good, because seeking with a heart of trust and assurance will carry us through the parts about God that we don't get. When we come to those parts we have to reflect on all his amazing attributes to remind us WHY we don't get it. God promises if we seek we will find but what he promises is HIMSELF, not all our answers. Along the way, there are many things we CAN understand about God when we ask these questions and seek answers for them. With the submissive heart, it's all going to be a good journey to take.

Remember, when God paints in black, it's to highlight some element of his amazingly bright and beautiful character here on earth. Should you, the created, take the brush from his hand and declare "no, no, no! Yellow is much more cheerful here!"? The great painting he is creating requires the use of variant dark hues. One day we will stand back and be overwhelmed with delight, but sometimes all we can see are a mess of darkness right in front of our face and hear the echo of promises of goodness. If the artist is promising great things and he's shown you His phenomenal handy work everywhere, don't you think you can trust his masterpiece?

13 comments:

Tricia said...

First great post. You got me thinking. I look forward to reading the book and having deep conversations. I hope it comes in soon. I love that He promises that if you will seek Him you will find Him. I don't always like the plans that God has for me (it is usually when I don't get my way that this occurs). I have learned to cry out to Him during these moments and look back at how faithful God has been to me.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Alicia, that was very thought provoking! You have such a great way with your words. I'm looking forword to this study.
Thanks.
Charlotte

m. christine weber said...

Beautiful post, Alicia. Wish I could go through the book with you gals... Alas, I will just follow along through your posts :-).

Amy B said...

I'd have to say that I am questioning His logic today. Why? is my prayer to Him lately. I am the wounded walking. I was seeking Him before it all broke and it makes me wonder why He never allowed me sight. I thought we were close, now I feel betrayed by Him just as I do the situation. I don't know why I think He should have told me... my short human mindedness. Wonderful thoughts and words, thank you for your honesty. Sorry for your loss three years ago.

Erin Claassen said...

You have no idea how much I needed to hear that right now. Thanks for that reminder for me, for I have been in a place of extreme discouragement recently in light of a lot of those questions. This has given some encouragement and some things to ponder.

Mrs.Oz said...

Thank you for the feedback ladies. It encourages me too:)
Amy, sounds like you could use a friend praying for you. I will do that today. You too Erin.
It's amazing when all is stripped away it's MORE of HIMSELF that we find everytime. We just have to lay our hearts and emotions at His feet and ask Him to fill us up with truth, HIS truth. NOt ours.
I hope HE continues to draw you all close.

Joy said...

Wow, Alicia, You've been doing some heavy duty thinking. Really I appreciate your honesty and I agree with you it really does boil down to trust. I always think of the scripture Our ways are not His ways. We have to trust even when God paints it black like you said, because we're seeing only a part of the picture. He sees the big picture.
♥ Joy

Erin Claassen said...

I just wanted to let you know that this blog post was not only encouraging to me, but to a lot of my friends, too. I posted a link to it on one of my friend's FB page, and consequently, a lot of our other friends read it too.

Our pastor is currently doing a series called "How God Saves." Our church has never officially delved into the predestination vs. free will debate from the pulpit before, so there's a lot of questions and fears people are either discovering for the first time or revisiting.

For me, it's just a revisit, but it's still difficult, as I never really reconciled the issue that last time I pondered over it...which was for about 5 years straight.

Our pastor keeps saying how comforting and joyous predestination is, and quoting the verse about how can the clay say to the master, "why did you make me thus?" (Romans 9:19-21) So, those of us who are struggling with aligning God's goodness with His decision to let sin into the world and send some people to hell without them ever having any other chances were feeling a bit like we had no right to even be upset about that for a minute.

Your post was refreshing, in that it still upholds God's goodness, but allows us to be confused, scared, or even upset when we don't understand it (which I think is also backed up in scripture, Psalms, in particular). As long as we don't stop there, but endeavor to know him more, He WILL give us more of Himself.

I still am far from understanding the possibility of God choosing to use the eternal condemnation of souls to glorify himself, and I am still not "okay" with it. But, I am not giving up. Thanks for this bright spot on a seemingly endless road.

Mrs.Oz said...

Erin,
I'm so gald you have been able to be encouraged in these things. It is a tough road but the fullness of finding Him trustworthy will fill your sould like nothing else. I'm glad your pastor is going through this too and that it's stirring up questions. I'm more than anything excited you are in a social group where you are discussing these honest reactions! I cannot tell you have great that is. Ask together, seek together and pray for one another.
In the next few days I will be doing one more post that will be even a little more harsh and honest than this one. It will be important to do before starting the disscussion of Randy Alcorn's book. It goes without saying that I highly recommend this book in discussion groups. I will be posting once a week on the issues if any of you want to follow but cannot read the book. IF you can, the reading starts June 1st. The book deals with these exact issues. I'm only two sessions into it and I'm enjoying the meat so much!
Thank you for taking the time to share. It spurs me on.

Mrs.Oz said...

soul...that is:) i type too fast and sloppy:)

Taylor said...

Hi Alicia,

Thank you for your very honest and straightforward posts. I do really enjoy reading them. First off, I want to talk about your first statement in regards to your List "What are things I disagree with God on?"

1.That sin was allowed to enter the picture at all on my level.

What do you mean on "my" level? Are you referring to your level as opposed to the Angel's level of sin?

Also, what do you consider Sin? According to the word, sin is "transgression of the Law"

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20john%203:4&version=KJV

2.That God says he is willing that none should perish and yet so many will.

Also, you made me think about Ezekiel and what happened to him:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2024:15-18&version=NASB

If I was Ezekiel, and all those things happened to me all of a sudden, and then God asked me to do something the following morning, I would say now way God!!! You took away something that gave me happiness, now you want me to do something for you to make me happy? Forget it!!! I'm sick to my stomach right now... I want to lay down.

3. That Satan was not destroyed early on when he rebelled.

This type of thinking is not much different that wondering why God even made mortals. God could've made us like Satan, and it probably would've even been more of a challenge since "Angel's" don't seem to suffer as we do according to what the Bible implies.

4.That we were born with sin that we did not ask for.

Once again, none of us really asked to be born at all, but it happened. So if you want to believe in God, then you might as well believe that you are also born into sin if you are to say God is "SUPERIOR." Just as you said:

"There is only one cure for doubt of God and that is reassurance from Him that he is SUPREME. His supremacy gives us the eyes to see WHY he can be trusted."

The Bible does also seem to talk about that, although it's been so long since I've read it, I might be wrong about the passage:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2015:42-53&version=NASB

Also, keep in mind about what I said earlier:

That sin is "lawlessness" or "transgression of the law" NASB and KJV respectively.

Moreover, remember me telling you about your other blog about how you are? You are a person that does have the Law in your heart. Even though you said your not the best rule follower. Can just tell by talking to you.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20timothy%201:6-10&version=NASB

Sigh...

I understand that I've told that I lost my faith, but you said you wanted me to comment on your posts, so I'm just trying to give you things to think about.

Keep up the good work.

Mrs.Oz said...

Well, first of all..your first question is just a typo. I meant to type "any" level. No, the angels are w/0 sin. Angels are another topic all together..

1. yes, i think your def of sin is correct. it's disobeying God. Not doing what He proclaims is right and good.

2. was #2 a question from you or just restating what i said?
Ezekiel's story was a hard one for me when I read through the bible, it was a time when I had to stop and absorb it. Just like I had to absorb when he instructed the men of Israel to go through and kill the boys 2 and under with a sword. That killed me. How could my God do that?
The answer to this is that we have to become like Job, seeing God for who he is, and then we see why we can trust Him even when he asks such things of us. In my mind it is no different than Abraham being asked to sacrafice his own son...how sucky is that..or that my mom had to loose her husband. Suffering is suffering, to the one who suffers there is no scale of worse or better. What he feels is worse than anything to him at the time. The only difference really is that Ezekiel was privy to what God was going to do where as many of us are not. We also don't get to see how he is going to use it or work it. Ezekiel trusted God. I think we can too. Being rebellious children does ntot relieve us from suffering, it keeps us in a constant state of it without end. At least on God's side, he promises not just that it will end but that he will reveal how it was for good. We suffer either way my friend! I've chosen the side with a nice ending...one that i'm very content with and is real to me.
3. I don't see a well formulated question here...just thoughs. That's fine, but I have no reason to answer. :) I will however state that If GOd IS Good does help with these.

4. Of course i believe I was born into sin.

Furthermore...I love what David laments about how God has written his law on His heart. If you mean that I have that, then absolutely. To have it written in your heart is far more powerful than in a book you are a slave to. At the same time, I have the complete forgiveness of my heart and darnit if I don't happen to love that combination. I do not carry the guilt of the law, but I do carry the heart of it. Which is summed up by what Jesus said, that it is love. All the commandments were given to force love that we did not have on our own. If you love someone, you will not steal from him, take his wife, cheat on your own, covet what is his, murder him...
The law is summed up in LOVE..and THAT is what Christ writes on the tablets of our hearts...and I love it and am grateful for it.
The "rules" I have a hard time following are man's rules and i've grown a keen awareness to the difference through some painful failures. I'm thankful God has shown these things to me. They are not his "rules"...I love His rules..I love His law, in it I delight and find my perfect joy.

Mrs.Oz said...

...and i do appreciate things to think about. I love to think.

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